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Good Advice

Started by tastyrerun · 8 months ago

I read an article on Salon this morning that suggested that those of us who are panicking about the current election situation need to pull ourselves together, take a deep breath and act. I think it’s excellent advice and I’m going to do my best to follow it.
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  • Yes, please do talk more about Obama and McCain. Talk about how Obama wants to double the capital gains tax. Talk about how Obama took action to delay the troops from coming home from Iraq. Talk about how Obama has big spending plans. Talk about his ties to the multiple people he has dealings with. Plus, just for the fun of it, talk about how he has less experience than Palin.

    Chances are I'll never return to see your reply because I came across this site by accident, but for those that do find this, I challenge you to reply without the use of name calling like you did in the post. Maybe, just maybe, you will then come across as being creditable and worth listening too. Until you are able to write without the name calling, you will be seen as nothing more than a blindly faithful Obama supporter who is full of hate.
  • Andy, Andy, Andy.

    If you still believe in the Republicans, still trust that there is anything good they can do for you or the country or the troops or our standing in the world or the national debt or the economy or anything else, well, I'm sorry for you. I really am. You can't look at the world right in front of your face, the lies they are telling you, the destruction of our economy, our constitution, the big government, the tax breaks for the rich, the illegal wars... If you can't see what 8 years of this style of government has done to our country, there is little or nothing I can say to convince you. Go therefore, vote against your own best interests, vote against the constitution, vote against freedom, vote against reason, vote Republican. Knock yourself out and when Obama wins and your life improves, well, if you're the kind of person you seem to be, I'm sure you'll still vote against him the next time, so, whatever.
  • My favorite part: "Talk about his ties to the multiple people he has dealings with."

    Also, Andy is a poop-face.
  • Thank God, I have undo last closed tab installed. I'm actually impressed that you didn't use name calling. So lets break this down.

    "destruction of our economy" - I hope you are not thinking that the economy is in a recession. If you are, you couldn't be more wrong. You need 2 consecutive negative quarters of GDP. At this time, there hasn't been a single negative quarter since just after the terrorist attacks. yes, parts of the economy are sinking, but other parts are doing well. that will always be the case.

    "destruction of...our constitution" - Exactly what part of the constitution has been destroyed?

    "big government" - No president can reduce the size of government without having a line item veto pen. Until then, congress will need to stop with all the earmarks.

    "tax breaks for the rich" - I personally would like to see a flat tax. This way, there would be no favoritism for anyone. However, that is not the case for Obama and McCain. Obama's tax rate would be the highest individual tax rate since the Jimmy Carter days and if you are old enough, you will know how bad things got back then. If you use pt history as a measure, McCain's plan proves to be more promising.

    "illegal wars" - For every item you state as the U.S. entering an illegal war, I can find something that contradicts it. This would leave us going in circles. This is a no win argument for either side.

    In the end, you assume McCain and Palin are the same as Bush. That couldn't be any farther than the truth. I don't expect 8 more years of what is happening and neither should you. Once you stop thinking things emotionally you will realize the errors of your ways.
  • Tell ya what Andy. I hate when big topics wind up buried in comment threads. How about you just hold on till Thursday and I'll do my big weekly post on all this. I'll focus on substance, not rhetoric. OK? Tune in Thursday night or Friday morning at the latest.
  • I just have to add, as someone who is somewhat informed on the U.S. tax regime, that when taken as a whole -- taking taxes at local, state and federal levels, and specially noting the fantastically regressive social security taxes -- the flat taxers already have their ill-advised flat tax. With one exception. At the very pinnacle of the income pyramid - somewhere around the top 0.01%. Those folks don't pay anywhere close to their fair share. And considering that the creme de la creme have by far the greatest ability to pay not just their fair share but quite a bit more than their fair share without it having an effect on their ability to invest and "grow the economy", and since they have benefited from the massive redistribution that has been going on essentially nonstop since the Reagan era, if not a bit earlier, I'd say that our tax regime is nothing short of a crime against humanity. My recommended reading here, as it is a relatively digestible book on taxes, Free Lunch by David Cay Johnston. But read it with blood pressure meds and a jar of antacid nearby, because reading about how the bandit class makes out, enabled by the federal govenrnment, is fairly sickening.

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